. >> so on the other side of things we have nancy pelosi saying there aren't spending problems. where is the middle ground? >> the middle ground is you have to deal with this the way that you and i would deal with it at home. you can't do something for two months or five months or six months. you have to look out over ten years. that's why simpson bowles, you pick one. the alternative minimum fix, if you accommodate them in a thoughtful plan. sadly what congress and the president has looked at rosily is this month it's taxes on rich people, next month it's sequestration. it's not a way to do business. >> steve latourette, thank you for your time. >>> still ahead, we continue to monitor the big news coming from italy. who tops the list of those who could be the next pope? >>> plus we'll have reaction from clergy here in the united states. >>> and this afternoon congress will once again take up the violence against women act. congresswoman gwen moore joins me to talk about what made this not so controversial legislation political incendiary. yes she is, yes she is. [ bop ] [ male